Nicola, who has spent the last few years researching the Order for Lifelong Restriction as part of her PhD thesis, explains why these sentences exist, and she tell us about the impact they’ve had on the people who are serving them.

Joining Nicola is Dr Marguerite Schinkel, a senior lecturer in Criminology at the University of Glasgow, who talks about her involvement in a social media campaign #NOLR, and why she thinks it’s time to end these kinds of sentences and focus on treatment rather than punishment.  

The Just Humans podcast is hosted, produced and edited by Rachelle Cobain from the Scottish Centre for Crime and Justice Research.


First published: 9 July 2025